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djr1718
post Oct 23 2011, 12:22 PM
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Last night at the speedway city burnout comp, was a Holden Torana that had a sweet smell when it was running. Wondering anyone know what fuel could it be.
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post Oct 23 2011, 01:03 PM
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Don't know...I love the smell of methanol but their rules are similar to Dirt Circuit so no methanol or nitrous.

I'd say it would have been E85 as that has a sweet smell to it smile.gif


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post Oct 23 2011, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (djr1718 @ Oct 23 2011, 01:22 PM) *
Last night at the speedway city burnout comp, was a Holden Torana that had a sweet smell when it was running. Wondering anyone know what fuel could it be.



Elf or E85. both have a sweet lolly like smell.
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post Oct 23 2011, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE (br42 @ Oct 23 2011, 02:04 PM) *
Elf or E85. both have a sweet lolly like smell.


Cheers just done some googling on it, no surprise the Sweet smeel been made from sugar cane.

can you run this fuel straight from the tank or need to do conversion?
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post Oct 23 2011, 04:09 PM
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It can be run in nearly any engine but you'll have to either get a carby to suit or bigger injectors for an EFI motor as it uses more fuel than ULP. You may have to upgrade the fuel system to cope as well...pumps and lines etc. and will require a different tune. E85 is very boost friendly too.

In saying that it does make more power and helps your engine run cooler so there is other benefits as well...but as with some other things Dirt Circuit still does not allow it which I don't understand????? unsure.gif


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post Oct 23 2011, 05:18 PM
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Think been bio-fuel be allowed, just look at V8 Supercars. less they trying to be more environment friendly.

How we going go when Carbon tax comes in, we still be allowed to burn our rubber on the skid pans.
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post Oct 23 2011, 05:41 PM
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page 39 section 4 allowable fuels says any ULP racing fuel is allowed with a maximum of 102 R.O.N. cheers Bronte.
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post Oct 23 2011, 05:47 PM
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it was probably avgas


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post Oct 23 2011, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE (shell @ Oct 23 2011, 06:47 PM) *
it was probably avgas


Dont think avgas smells 'sweet'.
Back on topic please Shell.
But does sound sweet, not smells sweet
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post Oct 23 2011, 08:46 PM
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which torana are you talking about was it the brown lh/lh ?


Brad ya tripper im on topic now shhh lol


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post Oct 23 2011, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (shell @ Oct 23 2011, 09:46 PM) *
which torana are you talking about was it the brown lh/lh ?


Brad ya tripper im on topic now shhh lol


Not trippin Shell. Been Arno Bay, Quorn, Hungry Jacks at Pt Augusta and back today, then down the Pub for Sunday sess, and Arno Bay Yacht Club, now home.

Just think ELF drums or E85 would smell sweeter than Avgas.
But who really cares, as long as they are doing it off the street, still having fun, not getting caught, and maybe get awarded after. Everyone wins.
Back on topic. Smells like E85, but could be synthenic engine oils.
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post Oct 23 2011, 09:29 PM
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it was methanol with a candy additive , you can buy additives so it doesnt smell like methanol


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Well there ya go.
Just like rubbin tyre sizes off the wall (to meet street stock regulations).
Always someone out there trying to stretch the rules.
Prehaps I was tyring to read too much into it
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post Oct 23 2011, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (shell @ Oct 23 2011, 09:46 PM) *
which torana are you talking about was it the brown lh/lh ?


Brad ya tripper im on topic now shhh lol


LH Torana, Sponsored by Gawler Transmissions
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post Oct 24 2011, 05:40 AM
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So ya not allowed to run methanol at the speedway city burnout comps either?


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post Oct 24 2011, 06:59 AM
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E85 will run in standard engines, no need to mess with the fuel system, however to really extract the extra power available, especially in boosted applications, a retune is neccesary, then you can expect up to 15% KW increase.

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post Oct 24 2011, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE (djr1718 @ Oct 23 2011, 11:53 PM) *
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yep I know the one it was methanol with a candy additive , you can buy additives so it doesnt smell like methanol


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QUOTE (Box @ Oct 24 2011, 06:40 AM) *
So ya not allowed to run methanol at the speedway city burnout comps either?

Found this on the speedway city site

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REGULATIONS FOR BURNOUT COMPETITIONS...

The object is to produce as much smoke as possible, with no hesitation, in your allocated time of 60 seconds.

REQUIREMENTS:

1. All competitors to complete Entry Form and Sign Waiver.

2. A current Drivers Licence is required - Provisional or Full.

3. All Competitors will wear long sleeved shirts, long trousers and covered in shoes.

4. No thongs, sandals, shorts, and T-shirts allowed and no synthetic or nylon clothing to be worn.

5. Seat Belts must be worn and properly adjusted during competition.

6. Helmets must be worn.

7. No competitor is to have any part of their body protruding from the vehicle during competition.

8. The maximum speed of vehicles within the complex and infield is 15 km/hr.

9. Burn outs to cease and vehicle leave the centre area immediately on direction of the Officials.

A SAFETY CHECK OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CARRIED OUT:

1. No loose items inside the vehicle.

2. All doors must have secure locking mechanisms.

3. Throttle return (spring).

4. No fuel, oil or fluid leaks (radiator overflow bottle is recommended).

5. The fuel tank, if not original, is to be of a professional construction standard or fuel cell type and securely mounted.

6. Battery tied down and securely fastened.

7. Brakes.

8. Scatter shields to be fitted to all modified vehicles with manual transmissions.

9. Bonnets and front mudguards must be fitted.

10. Tail shaft loops must be fitted.

11. Seat mounts.

12. Seat belts and mounts.

13. Wheel studs & nuts (no wheel trims). All wheel weights must be either removed from drive wheels or taped.

RULES OF COMPETITION:

1. Entries limited to the first 100 vehicles.

2. Maximum time limit of 60 seconds.

3. Headlights must be on.

4. Any competitor failing to keep within the defined area will be automatically disqualified.

5. No static burn outs (vehicle must be kept moving). Long static burn outs will result in a loss of points.

6. If a tyre or engine blows, please stop vehicle immediately.

7. Burn outs on pit roads or any other area (other than the designated burn out area) will see the driver and vehicle removed from the Speedway City complex and banned from competing at future events. The cost of any damage will be charged to the competitor.

8. Competitors must not consume Alcohol for a minimum of 2 hours prior to or during the event.

9. No alcohol or glass is to be brought into the Speedway City complex.

10. Drivers must follow the requests of the officials, as they act on your behalf in the interest of safety.


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post Oct 24 2011, 10:07 AM
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Some those rules they didnt police. like first 100 cars entry, I know was 101 8cyl alone.
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